Reborn as a Demonic Tree by XKARNATION

i hope that for the love of god this doesnt go the harem route 😔

What you are describing isn't a flaw of the system tag. The system tag is the system tag. What you are describing is the inability of the "authors" to write a proper story. The same way a system can be used a crutch any typical magic or cultivation system can be used as a crutch. Just write what has already been written. It isn't specific to the system genre. This is what I am trying to tell you but you refuse to listen.

Maybe what we both consider a "system" tag might be different. For me the system tag doesn't represent a golden finger or some kind of artifact. For me the system tag represent the clasic character panel that is a staple of many games. In other words the system tag is the panel. The artifact part can have such a large variety that it would be pointless to judge the whole thing from only part of one of the two aspects of the system genre. Can the system genre be dumbed down to the bare minimum ? Yes , this can happen. Though that also stands true for many other genres. Forget the harem genre , just the romance genre can have such a large variety and a certain requirement to the skills of the author but that doesn't make it a genuine bad genre. Both of those just have a low entry point but a very very high skill ceiling. Some of the best system novels used the system for the part I was telling you. They focused on the ability to quantify progress. The rest of the aspects of the system can easily be independent from it. For example RSSG (Reincarnation of the Strongest Sword God) is one of the best VRMMORPG novels out there hands down. Being a VRMMORPG the system tag is basically indispensable. Despite that you won't see anyone bashing the novel due to the system tag (it is more likely to complain for the lack a close relationships than anything with that). That is because you could easily remove the character panel and it wouldn't change that much. The way to become stronger in a sense is independent to the character panel. Though that doesn't mean that the character panel is useless. It is just properly used.

This is a clear cut example of how the "character panel" (which is what the system tag is) doesn't make it expressely easier to create a magic or physics easier. It doesn't make it expressely easier to give the MC power. It isn't a hand-waving device. Any kind of traditional artifact that a cultivation novel has can do those things. Depending on the novel the author can always find excuses whether good or bad to do those things. It isn't something unique to the "system" tag. It is present in any cultivation (growing stronger through one's efforts) story. If you boil down all the systems in all the novels out there , you will end up with just a "character panel". I am saying this again and again because you are simply ignoring this fact. All the other "abilities" could have been easily been an or multiple innate talents of the protagonist. Being able to summon individuals from a different dimension whom are characters from various anime ? This could have easily been a talent that the protagonist was born with. The ability to connect with other dimensions and summon individuals from there. This could also have just been a system. It's dumb to think otherwise.

Someone (like me) could easily say that a proper system novel needs much more work than you can possibly think. Strength attribute ? So how much strength does an average male possess in numbers ? Is it 10 or is it 1 and you have increases with one decimal ? Do different races or classes have a different modifier to what that number translates into force (kg/m2) ? Are there thresholds when you reach certain numbers like 50 , 100 , 1000 , etc where that modifier increases ? Does the strength stat just translates to physical force ? Or does it represents muscle density and volume ? Can you increase attributes outside the system ? How much experience you get from each action ? How do skills work ? Do you only get them from the system or can you self create ? And a myriad more things that you need to consider. You literally need to set up tables upon tables on excel to just keep track of all this stuff. You need to take in account everything. What you also pointed is that "authors" simply don't do what they should. They just vomit out walls of text and call it a proper novel. You don't explicitely need a system tag to just be a poor skill author.



I think you misunderstood what I meant. The gist of it is quite simple. Just because you wrote a hundred thousand words doesn't mean you are a legit author/writer. The same way just because I painted the walls of my room doesn't make me a decorator.

Regarding my comment about paperback books : Publishing such a book takes risk and requires a certain level of quality for a true publisher to commit funds to your book publication. 90% of the novels on webnovel and similar sites can barely called amateur. There are those that the author is simply inexperienced and he is exploring this wonderful craft through trial and error. Then there are those that really lack any skill regarding writing or simply never put nearly enough effort to make any decent book. The first case of people I can wholely accept being called authors. The second group though don't deserve any sympathy. The best I could give them is to call them amateur authors. And that is me being generous. They are simply on a completely different level from the rest. I myself probably have written a couple hundred thousand words in various comment and posts but that doesn't make me an author. Even if a written a novel that was objectively shitty I would still not call myself an author. I am not being condescending to others just for the sake of it. I would hold my self to the same standards that I am judging others for.

Can't say anything about bad grammar, I don't speak English.
I disagree that this is not a cliché novel.
1. The cliché system.
2. cliché plot.
(Reincarnation, emotions - little reason to care about characters, emotional protagonist, protagonist surrounded by a bunch of girls.)
The only thing that is more or less new in this novel is that the main character is a tree.
The novel itself is also a brain cell killer from the protagonist's stupidity.
I wrote at the beginning of the comment "What do we have at the moment?" what makes you think that I make the final judgment on the novel?

Everytime I hear someone mentioning cliché/repeated tropes and bad book on the same novel I roll my eyes. With the amount of novels being written these days it would be a miracle to find a book that doesn't draw some sort of trope from another book. The problem isn't about repeated tropes. The problem how well though out they are written.

I remember seeing the anime 'Kenja no Mago' which is one of the most cliché anime I have ever seen. Despite that it is quite enjoyable because the author knew how to properly implement those tropes instead of blindly matching them together like some Frankestein monster (which usually happens with most authors).

I will explain what I meant. The main character turns into a tree. He has the soul of an adult. Unwilling to understand how to survive in the cultivation world, he sucks up all the nonsense and blames the system. And I don’t need to write that he is a tree, he can’t do anything. This is complete nonsense. By learning the system, you will be able to understand how it works and use it correctly.
“He got caught up in stella's tribulation, and was struck by lightning. What the f#ck was he meant to do about it? Move away? Oh wait, he's a TREE."I re-read to answer you correctly. HE DATED HEAVENLY ANGER, not Stella, she said so herself. There was also a storm. The answer to your question is: what should he do about it?
Even before the lightning strike, he had already seen that the lightning had not spared the other dervi either. And he could deduce that the lightning might have struck him. And come up with a solution. And don't say there is no solution.
The world of cultivation is a huge endless hydrogen of events. Anything can happen. It would be necessary to at least err on some kind of event.