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The Journey of Projection Upgrading投影升级之旅

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In a world where spiritual energy is reviving, ancient sects that have been dormant for many years are on the brink of resurgence.

Among the mundane, martial arts sects monopolize the inheritance of martial arts, while ancient immortal races roam the world. Chen An arrives at this juncture, taking on the role of a junior disciple within a faction, gazing bewildered at this world.

By his side, factions engage in internal strife for power and profit, while demons cause chaos and gods and ghosts walk among mortals.

Faced with such chaos, the only thing he can do is to make good use of the upgrade template he brought along. Collapse
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    itisme
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    Read till chapter 44. The novel started kinda okay, however slowly but surely the author keeps pumping more and more plot armor. Side characters are not able to die because MC knows them, and that is enough for the author. His cheat is good but we have seen it many times, till now basically he can add points to his skills. Later on it will be proper simulation cheat though, I think... You can notice that the mc goes with the flow, and is not someone that will betray a friend to get more power. At least till now, and I do not see that changing (meaning that he is not power hungry). Honestly I did not like it, after a couple of chapters it translators don't even care anymore they have pasted it from mtl directly. I do not recommend it.
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    Mister potato g123
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    Bruh it's dropped why bother -_-
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    MoonshineOmega
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    Got to Chapter 32 before deciding to drop. The premise itself has some similar aspects to other novels, like Arcane Academy: The Divine Extraction Legacy and Fantasy Simulator. But enough differences to make them not a carbon copy.

    He extracts negative/curse energy from specific corpses/objects/people to charge his simulations. He has the option to Control a simulation, but currently has never had enough energy to be able to select it. The simulations themselves seem to be completely random - not related to anything much. It is just a few sentences of text explaining some key aspects of the life, then some supposed life experiences get experienced by MC and he gains points to upgrade his cultivation methods/stats. I'll put an example of one of them below so you can see what I mean:

    "Do you want to simulate?"

    "Confirm."

    "At the age of twenty, you successfully married, but encountered a group of bandits on the way to meet your bride."

    "Your simulation is over."

    "Judgment: Your life was particularly tragic, and you died before leaving any offspring behind."

    "You have gained ten points of source energy."

    Lines of subtitles flashed before his eyes.

    Chen An looked at these lines of subtitles, feeling speechless.


    It doesn't seem like he gains anything from the memories of these simulations either - one of them had him/his character be a doctor, yet he didn't seem to gain any medical knowledge from that experience.

    There are 3 reasons why I'm dropping it.

    1. In Chapter 32 there is an abrupt shift near the end of the chapter. I looked at the Chinese Source and a good chunk of the chapter was just straight up skipped in the translation. Not sure if it occurred in previous chapters or if it would occur in future ones, but it wouldn't surprise me.

    2. The translation quality itself goes down as you go further on. The usual mistakes that occur without any proofreading - mistaken names, mistaken genders, changing terminology for skills etc.

    3. The novel is supposedly already dropped in source (based on the Ranobes status here). Given that, with the issues above, I personally wouldn't reccomend you bother with this.

    If you do like the premise though, I would suggest you just translate the Chinese source chapters in your browser instead, to ensure that there is nothing missing. There was some weird timer that was on screen when I was checking it, but no clue what it was for since it didn't get translated.
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    bound2
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    To be honest, it's not bad, but the translation is subpar and the dialogue seems overly simplistic. The premise and flow of the novel are all right, and if it had a better translation I could see myself really enjoying it. However, as it now stands it's not great, but not terrible. Also it has another simulation system which is boring af.
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    Homie_Reader
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    Just finished reading Fantasy Simulator and I see this lol
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    Why is this dropped novel being picked up? Sometimes I dont get why these get up here, its usually better to read a complete story than a story that is axed off
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    God_Unknown
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    You know, I've always thought that cultivation novels don't make sense, so I'll explain my thinking.

    We know that in cultivation novels, there are beings who can live for a ridiculously long time, so long that they can be called immortal. That's the problem, they live for so long, but they're still dumb or have ordinary intelligence and even those who are supposed to be intelligent aren't intelligent enough for the amount of time they live.

    The thing is that for such beings, time isn't a problem, so they can create and perfect plans that are almost perfect and large enough to involve universes and eras, but then a protagonist comes along who may or may not have a cheat and somehow destroys those plans or even interferes with them. The thing is, it shouldn't be possible for MCs to grow from the bottom up, because they'd be played to death by stronger beings who've lived longer, yet they manage it.
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      Esilek
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      Well, I presume all because they are constantly in meditation?Or if we try to apply logic to this illogical concept, then their low intelligence is a trap of the heavenly dao, so that they do not live to the end.As we have read in many novels in the world of cultivation, few people die their natural death, perhaps the remaining life span restores the essence of the world or increases the age of herbs, ores and treasures.Or is it just that their intelligence is a sacrifice that they make to achieve longevity.
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        God_Unknown
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        That's why it becomes more problematic: a person who lives in a cultivation world and manages to live for a long time can't meditate all the time, as they would end up being killed by others in some way. Therefore, those who live in a cultivation world for a long time can never be ordinary or have low intelligence.

        The world of cultivation has literally irrational powers, anyone who lives in a world where from one day to the next a universe can be destroyed in a fight between celestial beings, either has something powerful to rely on or has very high intelligence, and often it's both. Now, tell me how such beings that have managed to survive various kinds of disasters, challenges, etc. over time, was defeated by a nobody?
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          Esilek
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          Well, if there is a level of intelligence, then in one book on cultivation I heard an interesting theory.Her name is the cognitive barrier of the tao, the main idea is that the non-verbal tao for the duration of his whole life controls everything that happens around (the power of the judge, causes and effect)by putting thinking in a box so that it doesn't even have certain thoughts and ideas. In general, cultivators are a figment of people's imagination, I think we can close our eyes to such a world order if there is a good one
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            God_Unknown
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            I recommend the novel "我在玄幻世界冒充天机神算". It's very good and has great worldbuilding. Furthermore, the cultivators are truly intelligent in this novel. I recommend reading it on the website 69shu.pro
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              Esilek
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              For some reason, your message only reached me, but come on, can you briefly describe this novel?Does it have a harem (hopefully not) of beaten paths?will he create a sect, etc. I will blog
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                God_Unknown
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                It has a harem and it doesn't at the same time. It's a romance that has a lot of plot, a lot of characters scheming against each other, so there are no real relationships. The MC has a relationship with two girls, but it was more part of his act to fool them than anything real.

                No, he doesn't create a cult. The novel is basically about a guy who went to the cultivation world with an Op system, but he doesn't dominate the world, in fact, he almost dies many times and ends up being framed by many people, even though he has an Op system, he barely has an advantage and basically balances the power game. The novel is more about using intelligence than defeating everyone on the basis of strength.
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      MMA_SirOwlbie
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      Tbf, intelligence doesn't correlate to strength in these novels - wisdom, maybe, but not intelligence, which is what you'd need to craft an intricate centuries-long plan. And I also think there's still a human factor to pay heed to, emotions and attachments, and even then, you still have to recognize that even if they are smart and don't have better things to do, they're still restrained by their opponents, who would be similarly smart and so they'd all just be counter-plotting against each other all the time.
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        God_Unknown
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        It still doesn't make sense. Think about it, in a world where the law of the jungle is the ultimate law, using force as the basis for solving all problems will only lead to failure.

        Well-laid plans even by those with kingdoms below yours could get you killed if you're not careful. For this reason, only those who know not only how to use strength, but also the wisdom and intelligence acquired over time could survive, like a pot full of poisonous insects, it wouldn't be the one with the strongest poison who would win, but the one who could best adapt to the poison of others and also had a strong poison.


        In addition, in the world of cultivation, strength does have to do with intelligence, because as they advance, they basically overcome their mortal bodies and move towards a higher form of life and soon have a better brain, thus being able to reason, learn, etc. All much better than a mortal human could. Now think that everyone is like that or more or less like that, anyone surviving in such a difficult environment could not be a brute with only strength and zero intelligence, even if they didn't like doing it, they would have enough time to think of ALL the possible possibilities for their plan to fail and create huge and extensive countermeasures and they would still have to take into account other people doing the same.
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          Víteliú
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          In fact, I could talk more about this work "我在玄幻世界冒充天机神算" is saved in my 69 but I don't remember anything haha
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          Víteliú
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          One question, is it worth reading this work that you recommended beyond chp 170? Because I read it for over a year and stopped there because I found the plot repetitive, I didn't even have any expectations anymore. Is it worth rereading? Because I know that each chapter must have about 9 thousand words
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            God_Unknown
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            I don't know, I stopped around chapter 120. I found the plot quite interesting, but I stopped because it was too complicated to read everything at once. There were a lot of plans, information, etc. If you think it's cool, read another 20 chapters, otherwise you'll just drop it.
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              Víteliú
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              Nam, I don't think I'll see this work anytime soon, I read it a year ago if not more. I read 170 to 180 hp but I dropped it because of the possible harem and repetitive plot, and the plot was becoming overwhelming to watch.
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      ijshorn
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      My logic is that strength is such a big factor that it overshadows intelligence compared to what we are used to. And if you keep using intelligence to overcome problems then you will start relying less on your personal strength and that means you don't grow stronger.

      The world is also bigger so more indirect management is needed and the lack of urgency because what can a puny cultivator do that is 4 realms below me and he will need a few 1000 years anyway to get to my lvl so if it ever comes to it i can just kill him.

      And then you have the mc that rushes realms like it is a 1000x time acceleration cultivation world and before they can even react it is already to late.

      Though some cultivation novels do it very well and some do it horribly.
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        God_Unknown
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        It still doesn't make sense. Think about it, in a world where the law of the jungle is the ultimate law, using force as the basis for solving all problems will only lead to failure.

        Well-laid plans even by those with kingdoms below yours could get you killed if you're not careful. For this reason, only those who know not only how to use strength, but also the wisdom and intelligence acquired over time could survive, like a pot full of poisonous insects, it wouldn't be the one with the strongest poison who would win, but the one who could best adapt to the poison of others and also had a strong poison.


        In addition, in the world of cultivation, strength does have to do with intelligence, because as they advance, they basically overcome their mortal bodies and move towards a higher form of life and soon have a better brain, thus being able to reason, learn, etc. All much better than a mortal human could. Now think that everyone is like that or more or less like that, anyone surviving in such a difficult environment could not be a brute with only strength and zero intelligence, even if they didn't like doing it, they would have enough time to think of ALL the possible possibilities for their plan to fail and create huge and extensive countermeasures and they would still have to take into account other people doing the same.
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          Víteliú
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          "Your mind is limited to what it sees." I believe that the "cultivators" have some type of cognitive defect, it is likely that the so-called spiritual energy prevents them from seeing beyond. For example, Demonic energy is seen as an energy that makes people evil or crazy, but perhaps it is "demonic" for the simple fact that it acts directly, instead of acting surreptitiously like the enemy Spiritual energy/qi.
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            ijshorn
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            I don't really understand what you mean. But i will mention how i think how qi works.

            I think spirit/neutral energy is balanced so it has no way to imbalance your body and soul and only elevates it. Most other types of qi like wood/water/fire have a minor effect or no effect on the balance but demonic and buddhist type of qi have a major effect on the balance.

            How cultivators counteract the effects is affinity, for one. If you are already closer to the balance of a demonic qi then you unbalance less. Another part is your resistance to being unbalanced... that is why you have to have a strong dao heart. This also explains why different cultivation methods have different types of affinity. Same for weapons and go on. Also explains how sword cultivators are madmen for example in some novels.
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          ijshorn
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          Valid points. I agree with you that good use of intelligence overcomes someone relying only on strength.

          The point that is mentioned often is that if you start relying on something other then your own strength then you lack the resolve to get stronger compared to someone with a single focus. it is one of the major plot points why the mc is so stupid in Nine Star Hegemon Body.

          Another aspect that is good to mention is that cultivation talent is a major point in the birth of children. Someone that is for example nascent soul stage will have children that start for example at the foundation stage or their root is better then common people.

          In the real world a lot of geniuses have a singular focus for a reason and in that regard it does not matter if the the brain getting stronger. I think a lot of what makes someone a genius is the way someone thinks. So how electrical signals interact and the speed of those interactions. Cultivation only increase the speed but not the way.

          Could also argue that the brain is not cultivated the same way as the body. There is no brain refining stage in the cultivation and instead we should talk about the soul and that is very abstract in most novels and in the real world we can't even detect if it even exists.
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            God_Unknown
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            Okay, I don't think you understand how powerful the brain is and apparently you think that a superior/transcendental being would only have faster electrical signals.

            I agree with you that what makes a genius in real life is their mentality, but I completely disagree when it comes to cultivation. In cultivation worlds, genius is not something abstract, but something very tangible. For example, an ordinary cultivator takes 5 to 10 years to pass a realm, a not-so-great genius would take 1 to 2 and this accumulates. The reason for this is that geniuses in the cultivation world have everything better, they're faster, prettier, often luckier, have better roots, physique, bones, souls, etc. Therefore, it doesn't make sense for a genius of such caliber to focus on just one thing, since they often don't do this themselves, mastering many Taos, of course, this depends on the universe where the novel takes place, but this is usually the case.

            You see, these geniuses are not rare in the world of cultivation and they can't just cultivate and forget about the world, because in order to reach the top, they won't just have to compete with ordinary cultivators, but also geniuses from their own generation and several older ones to come. They will have to fight very strong people, very intelligent people, very lucky people, etc. Relying on strength alone will only turn you into another corpse for them to step on, unless you're the son of the celestial dao who is loved by the world, making the world help you.

            But normally people aren't, so how can they get resources they don't have access to, how can they take down a competitor, how can they get something you want or not let others have it? Simple, they'll create plans, they'll analyze their opponents' strengths, possible opportunities, etc. They have a speed of thought that surpasses human beings on an almost dimensional level, so even if it was just speed of thought, they could make almost perfect plans that would last for millennia in just a few years.

            Now remember that every cultivator at a more or less high level can also make the same plans and that's where the battle begins. Only the most intelligent, creative, lucky, etc. will be able to win, because strength doesn't help much in this case.
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              ijshorn
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              They also have a greater capacity but what i meant is that how someone does something has more impact then more capacity. For example sorting algoritms.

              I was talking about real world geniuses for a reason. Cultivation geniuses also include... cultivation factors.

              Your view of what should happen is also what i would expect but the eastern novels obviously show that it is not the case and probably because the writers want more relatable characters.

              So i am just coming up with theories that make the currently written worlds possible.

              So the question becomes... what inbalances the intellectual vs cultivation strength more then we perceive.

              For example martial unity and fate destroying emperor are more in line with your view.
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          morethanfalse
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          The answer is simple most of the author, or people in general, are idiots. They cant realistically portray inhuman intelligence a high level cultivator should have.
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            万古神帝Golden
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            Or more like no one in reality should be able to. If you haven’t loved for millions of years and have cultivated that long in a cultivation world, then you will never be able to imagine how they think. So unless an author is actually a bored god who wants to write a novel, we will never see such a novel. Also even if somehow a novel like that comes into existence, would we even understand and be able to relate to it? The likely answer is- no. Hence it wouldn’t be interesting to most of us.
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      Natnato
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      You're right, their science and tech barely improved still horse drawn carriage, boat that can fly and travel void even though they live for thousands if not millions of years.
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        Fickle as light
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        well we developed tech because we have no other ways to soleve problems but they have a f#ck all solution aka incresing strength. like they soil is bad and you lack food we invented feriliser but they get a wood elemental cultivator and problem soved. i think its a more magnified "attentive blindness" and their old gen lives for thosants of years so the points and direction of new gen is supressed as they are like "get on my level then talk"
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          God_Unknown
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          You're right about the technological development, that explanation makes a lot of sense, but it still doesn't explain the lack of intelligence of the cultivators.
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            Ahzidal
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            As far as I know, intelligence shows how fast you can process information while wisdom is the accumulation of information through experience. Both are crucial for planning as intelligence determines the span of the plan as well as how far reaching it will be. On the other hand, wisdom will allow you to determine the likely/unlikelyhood of certain scenarios for the known information as well as determining the variables. The reason no plan stays the same until completion is due to lack of information that wisdom at hand cannot fill.

            In cultivation novels, those who are good planners are usually either old monsters whose sheer volume of experience fill the gap with brute force or those who specialize in paths that provide easy access to information such as fate, karma, time, divination etc. but rarely both. Therefore, in most cases either the old monster doesn’t have enough knowledge about mc (which is like asking you to show the specific grain of sand that I secretly marked on a beach, beyond his scope) who reaches same realm as him million times faster (beyond his experience such that he cant even imagine such a situation, as if asking you to imagine the 3d model of the universe(inaccurate result)) or the guy who uses, for example, divination to deduce information but not including mortals in his deduction due to his lack of wisdom which results in him gaining incomplete information or not considering anti-divination measures(thank you grandpa in the ring) and gaining false information that he uses to plan.

            Finally, since we subconscously equate strength with intelligence, it gets increasingly harder to portray the character as the power scales. Personally, I don’t expect the author the show intelligence of the character correctly if he throws phrases like “His fart has the power to destroy 100 million universes,” Really? And this guy still can’t stop simping for every jade beauty he comes across and cant realise lin feng and feng lin are the same person and use the same moves?

            That is my understanding so far. Sorry for the ranting.
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              God_Unknown
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              Alright, let's go. Basically, you made the same mistake as before. Cultivators are NOT mortal, at least those above a certain realm. Intelligence isn't just about gathering information; if it were, all you'd need is to install an SSD in your brain and voila, you'd be the smartest thing ever.

              Firstly, almost every cultivator above a certain realm can acquire information absurdly quickly without needing to be physically present. How? Divine/spiritual sense, etc. Something almost every cultivator possesses. If a cultivator needed to find a grain of sand on a beach, they could.

              Now let's return to this part that I'm tired of harping on; wisdom is using the information you have efficiently. Cultivators don't need experience in everything, but if they lived in a more realistic cultivator world, they'd gain it anyway, just like any recent graduate entering the real world after school/college. This is even more amplified because they live much, much longer, so they can consider ALL possible variables for their plan to go wrong. You know the theory of the infinite monkey? With infinite time and infinite life, a monkey could randomly type out Shakespeare in one go. Cultivators are like those monkeys, but infinitely more powerful and with even stronger means. I didn't mention ways of acquiring information, because it was pretty obvious that beings who can master the Tao of destiny, cause, and effect, etc., could come up with even better plans.

              The biggest problem I see in your texts is exactly the same problem I see in cultivator novels; you insist on putting cultivators and mortal humans on the same level and judging them both the same way, when one of them is a nearly transcendent being.
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                Ahzidal
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                I understand your point. I think I have managed to figure out an observation about my text as you said:
                The biggest problem I see in your texts is exactly the same problem I see in cultivator novels; you insist on putting cultivators and mortal humans on the same level and judging them both the same way, when one of them is a nearly transcendent being.

                The reason why my texts have the same problem with cultivation novels is that they are solely based on my experience of reading such novels. Therefore, if there are problems as you said in the novels, it directly affects the things I write about them which showed me that I didn’t have as broad of a perspective as you had in this topic. I wrote about the concept of cultivators depicted by the novels but you focused on the concept itself and not the insufficient depiction by the novels which, I concede , is the better way.

                This made me think from the perspective of authors and why I have issue with separating cultivators and mortals. The main reason is that majority of the time, the cultivators started as mortals/humans. That is why they preserve their core even as they become stronger and the core can be considered their emotions, desire, or humanity. Even though there are changes, some fundemental things stay the same. The term Dao Heart(The reason/motivation for cultivation) which is determined when they are at the start of the cultivation and its requirement for stability and steadyness to reach higher realms originates from this. Furhtermore, another reason, in terms of perspective of authors, is that it is really difficult to describe things you can’t comprehend/imagine/describe and most of the time possible if you write it in the style of lovecraft(I dont have personal experience it is just hearsay) but this poses the problem of the difficulty of writing from the pov of such character. I believe that is why authors write the novels the way you say.

                Though I am still confused whether I can abstract my opinions from the influence of the cultivation novels or not.
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                  God_Unknown
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                  The Tao heart part does make sense, but it's still not every cultivator who comes from a common mortal background. For example, people who are born into cultivation families or on higher planes end up not having this mortal experience, so their way of thinking wouldn't be like that of mortals, but like that of a cultivator.

                  Your point is really valid and it's also something I thought about while writing the first comment. It's almost impossible to realistically portray what a cultivator would be like, after all, the authors and we are mortals and not cultivators. Just as we can't write a book from an ant's perspective, nor an ant from ours, it's not possible to describe how a being who transcends any mortal concept would think. But that's not the problem, the problem is that MANY cultivation novels dumb down cultivators to such an extent that their intelligence can't even catch up with the average person. The only thing I wish is that authors could at least write the personalities and actions of cultivators more or less equal to their level of transcendence. For example, instead of underestimating and leaving enemies alive, they would do everything to finish off those on their way to the top, but what I see are cultivators who don't just let their enemies grow, miss opportunities, don't suspect, don't make plans, they literally only know how to fight and aren't even shown how difficult the path of cultivation is. The search for resources, the fight against their peers, etc.

                  Authors of cultivation novels insist on not really exploring what a cultivator is, making them out to be just beings with an IQ like an anemone but with the power to destroy a universe with a sneeze.
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      Karmic_daoist
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      The mc is a part of their plan
      Each immortal is an MC
      MCs keep rising and are like cockroaches, hard to kill and everywhere
      Or an alternative ----
      But most cockroaches never amount to anything
      We grow lax and then that one random cockroach ends up poisoning u.
      Son of heavens are abundant
      The one we read about is the son of that omniverse
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      Malachai
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      I think ancient cultivators being kinda dumb makes sense in settings where they are in closed cultivation for decades or centuries, especially if they’re high in talent and started those seclusions young. They end up spending so much time just cultivating, practicing techniques, learning skills, comprehending dao, etc but never improving their social skills. Can’t scheme very well if you don’t understand people.
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